Thursday, April 16, 2009

On Attachment/Detachment

.
Have a listen to Part 2 on this page

Update: If the above link does not work, manually go to this page: http://degreesofemotion.wordpress.com/eckhart-tolle-a-new-earth-cd2/
(listen to Part 2 - actually, IMO, the whole book is very good)

Eckhart Tolle in 'A New Earth':
"How do we let go of attachment to things? Don't even try. It's impossible. Attachment to things drops away by itself when you no longer seek to find yourself in them. In the meantime, just be aware of your attachment to things. Sometimes you may not know you are attached to something, which is to say identified, until you lose it or there is a threat of loss. If you then become upset, anxious, and so on, it means you are attached. If you are aware that you are identified with a thing, the identification is no longer total. 'I am the awareness that is aware that there is attachment'. That's the beginning of the transformation of consciousness."



If only the Thai leaders were truly Buddhist!

21 comments:

hobby said...

Have fixed broken link, and have provided full web address in case it fails again.

Also included a quote which is how the section starts - I hope that helps.

Joy said...

how abt parents? are they attached to their children bec they seek to see themselves in the children?I suppose this is true to a significant extent..some parents do want their children to become what they used to want to be when they were younger. Yet not all parents are like this. and is children's sense of obligation and duty towards their parents (e.g. in Thailand children always (have to)finacially support their old parents) a form of attachment??aren't parents supposed to be the ones who support children and not asking anything in return? I know mothers tend to be like this, but i'm not so sure abt father. In my case, i find my father more demanding than my mother who actually never want to ask anything from me at all.

hobby said...

You are probably right about some parents seeking to see themselves in their children.

I dont think such a short quote does justice to Eckhart Tolle's words of wisdom, and would recommend you read the whole book, or it can be listened to at the link I provided in the original post.

The author has generously recorded an reading of the entire book by himself - it's great listening IMO.

Joy said...

thanks! will check out the link some time soon. Now i remember i know a father who really seeks to make his son in his own image (although a much more perfect image than himself). I feel the thing abt father (and even mother) trying to make a son someone that fits his/her own image really applies to Chinese culture. I have heard abt a father who could kill himself if his son refuses to pass on his last name through having another son (a grandchild for the father). I know the following sounds silly and simplistic but i heard that Australia is worried abt having too little population, esp outside big cities..so perhaps if this kind of belief is implanted among the Aus population, it can help with population growth!

hobby said...

I think immigration might be a better solution to the population problem (if there is one!)
Actually I think it is more an aging population problem, as there are plenty who think this vast, but in many places barren, country cannot sustain a much greater poulation.

Joy said...

but i have heard abt how the au is giving incentive to people to have at least 3 children (soemthing like..one for the father, one for the mother and one for Australia) I could have got it wrong though.

hobby said...

Yes, you heard correct - that was Peter Costello, Treasurer in the previous government, talking about our demographic problem (aging population) and the baby bonus he introduced.

In yesterdays budget, the new government announced they were lifting the pension age from 65 to 67, as another move to deal with the problem (lots of 'baby boomers' due to retire over the next 20 years!)

Joy said...

BTW, I have also heard that the baby boomers had a lot of power because they are high in number. I heard that they can use their number to bargain for what they want (e.g from yr gov)

hobby said...

Not sure if 'baby boomer' are a cohesive enough group to exert that sort of political pressure (while they are still working), but once they retire then I expect that could happen.

In the meantime I accept that baby boomers have much of the POWER in business & society and will probably be reluctant to completely relinquish it to the following generations - until they are forced to.
(does that remind you of a situation in another country?)

Joy said...

are u among the baby boomers? hehehe:-)
Some people says the present day aussie babies will have problem with they retire because their number is so slow and( they have been too much pampered by their parents who probably have them while they are in their 30s.)

Joy said...

correction:.. 'when" they retire because their ..
Once u mentioned that u are now interested in spirituality/the search for the meaning of life and the awareness of thought process. This post of yrs has been relegated to "older posts':-) How abt u update or move it up a bit?
i also have a question. how abt people who seem to need gratification and stimulation all the time? Is that a sort of problem and is it related to yr quest/interest??

Joy said...

well. but it seems u also feel the more u search, the more u are further away from the 'goal'.. so maybe 'quest' is not exactly the right word.. i suppose.
Is yr goal detachment? Do u still feel that detachment does not seem interesting to u ??

hobby said...

I think the problem for present day babies will be during their working lives, not necessarily in their retirements. They may be forced to endure higher taxes to support pervious generations in their retirements - maybe euthanasia will gain more support amongst future generations:)

As for whether I'm a baby boomer - I'd say I'm closer to dying than being born, and I'm unsure whether there is rebirth - I'll leave it up to you to work out whether I am a baby boomer or not:)

About the meaning of life search - when I find the answer I promise to post a blog about it:)

hobby said...

Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to make judgements about people who seek gratification, stimulation, detachment, even seeking meaning, because I myself have not found the meaning of life, and I'm undecided about whether I should even search for it:)

But if I do somehow find it, I will not keep it a secret:)

Joy said...

hahaha:-)But u are always judgemental, aren't u?
I actually support euthanasia (for myself. i think people should have the right to choose to die whenever they feel like it, after they have arranged everything for people close to them).
BTW, i might even find 'the meaning of life' before u. who knows?

Joy said...

Dear Hobby,
Thank you for everything.:-) I'm so grateful for yr thread and now i remember the first day i saw it.:-) I have reached a new reliazation and without yr thread and yr insights, i won't be able to. I just wanna say thank u and i'm sure we can be great friends (no more fights!):-)

Joy said...

i'm sure we can have a good laugh and great conversation over a cuppa!:-)

hobby said...

A cuppa sounds nice, but dont thank me - thank Eckhart Tolle for a great quote, and a great book.
:)

Joy said...

:-) :-) I will from now on call you Hobby, my very clever lady.:-)

Joy said...

Equal to Noel Rowe, u are the best gift Australia has given me.:-)

hobby said...

:)